Groovy new CSS based export module in latest version of Ulysses
If you own Ulysses III, check out the latest 1.2 upgrade. The export module based on CSS allows styled exports of RTF docs for Pages & Word as well as PDF, ePub & HTML. The way they've extended standard CSS for RTF docs is really intuitive to it's really easy to get into.
The only real downside I've encountered is that the latest version of Pages no longer opens RTF docs directly so you'll need a copy of Word or the iWork 09 suite to take advantage.
Here's the ref pages: Ulysses Style Sheets Reference
The really great thing is that Ulysses is coming to IOS very soon (and features the same export engine) so hopefully they'll implement a URL scheme so we can access it's loveliness directly from Editorial. They'll obviously need to find a way of exporting directly to the IOS7 version of Pages (rather than via IOS7) but I'm sure it's on the developers radar.
My favourite innovation in the world of Markdown since Editorial. :)
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I've not used Ulysses, being, unfortunately, Mac-less so far in life. Looks good though and I'm interested to check it out some day. This is from the same devs as Daedalus, right? I think so. I hope they implement a URL scheme, and I'm sure they will for something like this which is - in my mind at least - bigger than Daedalus, which also has a URL scheme. I didn't know this was coming to iOS but I'll have to look into it.
@the_buch - I had a conversation with the developers yesterday and they confirmed that URL schemes are part of their planning for the IOS version of Ulysses, as is a Doc export format that's directly compatible with Pages (Docx, rather than RTF, which is no longer supported by Pages). The other thing that they're ensuring is more control over image formatting as part of their bespoke CSS scheme. This is more for web based publishing than print but they recognise certain weakness that exist in this area at the moment on their desktop product (sandbox related issues).
I don't get the impression that Ulysses will supercede Daedalus on IOS (Daedalus is more of a notes app, than a long-form writing app) but the two will work together in harmony. I'm not a fan of Daedalus as I find the sheets based interaction model unintuitive (impressive, but more 'bling' in nature than useful) but Ulysses is a solid desktop application (with a great heritage) and in many ways will provide a much needed Scrivener type experience on IOS (I'm aware Scrivener has long promised an IOS version of their own but it's taking an awful long time to come to market).
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That's great. Definitely anticipating it. I've yet to look into it. I don't suppose you're aware of a potential time span for Ulysses on iOS? Daedalus isn't a bad app, but it's not for me, I guess. I know some people who really like that. I used it for a bit, but outgrew it, I guess you could say. From what I've seen of Ulysses for Mac, I looks pretty solid. As for Scrivener... Yes, a loonnnggg time. Though they did have some understandable hiccups previously. Supposedly it is on track now and I'm looking forward to that as well, but I don't think we'll see it for several months still. Hey say this year, but that can anytime in the next 7 months, sadly. And I really hope they plan to implement a solid URL scheme, with x-callback support for their iOS apps. I could deal without the x-callback, but it would be nice to have with a replace action for use in other apps.
I think Ulysses for IOS is definitely due this year and more than likely in the next 3 months. The developers are pretty careful not to tease information unless they're close launching something on the app store. The only thing I can see getting in the way is if Apple change IOS8 in a radical manner that means they'll be able to launch a better product using IOS8 technologies.
Editorial is still a far superior product because of it's customisation options and I can't see anything coming along any time soon to take away it's crown but Ulysses will offer a fantastic export engine that will work in harmony with Editorial. It also has a great way organising your writing for longer form document exports.
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Talking about export I was musing on the idea of creating OpenOffice documents - which are essentially XML in a zip wrapper - from editorial.
@martin - there's nothing directly on IOS but Brett Terpstra's Marked app on OS X exports to ODT.
However once Ulysses get their Docx export engine in place (at the moment it's based on RTF) I still think that Docx will be the format to go with as all the other word processing packages follow the tagging conventions for styled elements within Docx documents. Therefore once you've created your Ulysses export stylesheet - Pages, Open Office and of course MS Word will all add those styles to their own style selector mechanisms. That will obviously make the job of further edits in your word processing package of choice a breeze.
The Marked app produces print documents based on CSS Media Types and whilst it produces usable results it doesn't populate the style selectors within your word processor of choice so any further editing is a PITA.